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10 October 2008

Catalyst Blog #2 (Not Mobile Today)

Beginning day two... (BTW, looks like you really need to go here -- TonyMorgan -- if you want Catalyst wrap-ups)

The gentleman at the right was outside to entertain the people who'd gathered at the door waiting to get in. Awesome. And he didn't pull any contemporary music stunts, trying to make them all bagpipey. Good, traditional bagpiping.

Yesterday, oddly, one of my favorite speakers was Seth Godin, whom I'd anticipated not really liking a whole lot. From what I gather, Mr. Godin is not a Christ-follower, so his time speaking was a geared mostly toward universal human nature. Very, very interesting. Catalyst received an advance copy of his new book, Tribes, which was the subject of his discussion yesterday and is to be released on Obtober 16.

Craig Groeschel wrapped up the day's events yesterday, with a really, really heavily-convicting, blunt time speaking to pastors and church leaders who have lost "it." What's "it"?? In a nutshell, I'd say it's their passion for Jesus Christ and the replacement of that love with a consumption with ministry work. The sacrifice of family on the altar of ministry (which, I believe, was a quote from Andy Stanley). Hard-hitting. Tough. Good. Much-needed.

Gotta run. Sounds like we're starting!


Preston N said...

Interesting they had Seth Godins there. He is more known in the business world and so I am very surprised Christians are resorting to such secular speakers to teach us how to "market" church better. Although I would be interested in hearing more about his veiws on human nature, I find it interesting that we as Christians are resorting to secular "marketing" tactics that Seth is so well known for. For me it would be like the Isrealites asking the Amalekites on how to they could worship God better? Church and soul winning is not a commodity nor a product, but sadly churches have taken the lead of Rick Warren and his mentor Peter Drucker and turned church into a business rather than a revolution.

Dean Lusk said...

Great parallel. I have to admit that recent reading in Isaiah also came to mind; the Israelites asking the Egyptians for help.

You would, indeed, have found his insights very compelling, though. I almost left before he spoke. Glad I didn't.

Jan said...

I am assuming Seth Godin wasn't telling the church how to win souls........or how to grow spiritually....and certainly not how to worhip. We can learn things about creativity - or - shockingly - about what non Christians might think - from those who are not saved. I learn musical and creative things from non-believers. They can stretch us and help us see from a different angle. At church we get our internet, phone, electricity, sound equipment, and buildings all from people who may or may not be believers. They are still good at what they do. Well, except our internet provider is not that grand.

Preston, maybe you should go to Catalyst backstage and see what he said. You might be presently surprised.

Billy Chia said...

Seth Godin is a smart guy - church folk could learn a lot from him. The scripture says,

"Beside the gates leading to the city at the entrances Wisdom cries aloud." - Proverbs 8:3

Biblical truth and wisdom can be found in the world. If you listen to Seth's ethics and ideals you'll find that many of them are Biblically based.

Dean Lusk said...

Want to finish up the thought here. Jan's correct in that Seth Godin didn't speak to spiritual leadership. Rather, his points were on human nature and simple methods of leadership and understanding people.

I do think that you would have liked it. In retrospect I think that the choice of speakers at Catalyst reflects in some way your statement: true to life, true to Scriptures, true to reason. It worked well.

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